Sunday, April 22, 2018

Making friends

I don't know about you but I find it increasingly harder to make, sustain and begin new friendships. It was so easy as a child- you would just bounce up to each other, introduce yourself and a friendship began.  If you didn't really want to talk or be friends, you just didn't end up playing together so much.
Now as an adult, I find that I seem to have significantly fewer friends, especially since they've moved away or had children.  When I meet someone, lives are so much more busy and complicated, that socialising seems very difficult- we are too busy, they have kids that either sick or need to be at ballet, in bed, or they don't respond to messages.

As an adult, when meeting someone new, I  worry about whether someone genuinely wants to be my friend or not or is just being polite in the situation of talking to me.

When I joined my church, All Saints in 2004, it was beautifully easy, I got to know people and I naturally had a group of lovely church friends who I socialised with- various ages.
 When CBC and I got married and moved, I kept in touch with various friends from there, one I still meet up with for dinner near work but generally, people haven't stayed in touch so much.
When I moved to my next church, it seemed a bit harder to socialise- I met people but somehow didn't make the type or friendships that made it easy to meet up- I think this has a lot to do with my not joining a home group or going to too many events- CBC,not being a churchgoer, made it harder to join in with lots of things, he'd always moan if I wanted to go to many church events and thus, I somehow didn't get involved in so much, made harder when we moved to the next town away.  Somehow, as well, I didn't get that instant connection I did with many people like I did at my old church.

I think the only friend I've really made in the last year or so is L from my flute quartet and we never seem to be able to see her, she's so busy with piano tunings and other things which is sad as I'd really like CBC and I to get to know her and her lovely husband.

We went to a wedding a few weeks ago and at dinner, I ended up seated next to the Step-sister by marriage of the groom.  She was absolutely lovely and we seemed to get on so well and seemed to have lots in common-she is a print designer for well-known children's clothing company and we just clicked and when I talked to her, I didn't have that usual 'wedding talk' exhaustion of trying to make small talk, NOR that sense of worry that I was boring her or that she didn't want to talk to me.  Whether this is because she is a lovely person (which seemed to be the case) or because she genuinely liked me or got on with me, it was really nice.
I said to CBC later that I really liked her and thought she was nice, and he then proceeded to tease me about it.  Somehow, after dinner, when it came to swing-dancing and changing the venue rooms, after a swing dance taster class, I didn't end up speaking to her again, not least because we ended up chatting to and dancing with our other friends from music camp.  I really regretted it because I really did want to talk to her again and again that adult awkwardness of, can I say to someone, it would be lovely to stay in touch, let's swap numbers (not least because she really liked the sound of learning Balinese gamelan). Somehow, I didn't pluck up the courage to ask!

The next day, we drove to Shaftesbury to have an explore and as we were taking photos on the famous Gold Hill from the Hovis Advert, I saw the groom's Stepbrother and girlfriend walk past and then the aforementioned stepsister was there! I think I exclaimed her name in delight!  We ended up chatting to the family and walking up the hill. At which point, they went into the museum.  She was walking behind slower and said, that she thought they were going in there and said goodbye and again I failed to say anything.  CBC teased me mercilessly as we walked on saying, "But x, come with us!!" and said that it seemed like she didn't want to go into the museum.

It's hard though, because it is awkward saying to someone, essentially, "Do you want to be friends?" and it is awkward for them if they don't want to!

I hoped that moving house, I would find a lovely church where there would be lots of  people my age I could make friends with, but the town we were planning to move to didn't work out and I am yet to find a church to go to in this town.  I need to make a bit more effort to do this, but I always find it nerve-wracking going to a new place alone. I did go to the Anglican church in town but I didn't find it to be a place that I really wanted to go and be a member of , there were about 20 people which feels awful, but it didn't feel right.

How do you feel about making friends as an adult?  Particularly anyone who doesn't have offspring?

xxx

35 comments:

  1. I’m horribly lonely. It feels embarrassing to admit it, but where I live, I have no friends other than those of Andy and I don't know if they'd want anything to do with me if I weren't married to him as the only time I ever see them is when I’m with him. They often suggest us doing something in parting, but I fear they're just being polite as they never follow through and I don't have the confidence to do it myself.

    Outside of this town I have one friend who I'm in regular contact with, but only see every few months and I am still vaguely in touch with two old school friends but they are always too busy to see me.

    Making friends is so hard as a grown up. I try to reach out to others but it seems as though everyone already has enough friends and they don't need me.

    I’m sure that the lady you met would love to be your friend. You're easily one of the nicest, loveliest people I have ever met and she'd be lucky to have you as a friend xxx

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    1. I'm sorry that you are lonely, it shouldn't be embarassing to admit. I remember a Boxing Day where I lived alone and everyone seemed to be with friends and family and I was alone and it felt really lonely with no friends near. The feeling of worrying that one's husband's friends wouldn't really want to spend time with me is a feeling I have experienced. CBC doesn't have many friends either but he has one or two old friends who invite us out occasionally and I always feel like I don't fit in with them.
      You are very good reaching out to others. I sometimes wonder if all of us are all feeling rather the same about this judging from all the comments.
      I dearly wish you lived near me, it was so lovely meeting you and I didn't feel at all uncomfortable in your presence, we had such a lovely time. It would be so nice to meet again.xx

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  2. Never be afraid to reach out, because the person you are reaching out to could well be feeling the same as you ...

    I hope in time you will find friends in your new town.

    My good wishes

    All the best Jan

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    1. That is very true Jan, I am sure you are quite right.
      Here's hoping we do make some friends!x

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  3. A great topic... I think it's easier to make friend when we have something in common. You have lots of knowledge, well travelled, intelligent, musical and so much going for you, etc... The best friendships just happens. Just give it time. A good friend is worth waiting for.

    Maybe everyone are attached to their cell phones and have little time to connect in person.
    There are many lonely people out there.

    All my friends have moved away, some have parted ways and I keep myself busy most time and I don't socialize much anymore since I have a blog. That's fine with me since I like my own company and I love my solitude. I'm alone a lot but never lonely.

    I have a small group of friends we go to breakfast with after church each Sunday and we've been doing this for years but I'm usually too tired to go out in the evening after a hard day's work.

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    1. The having something in common is very true.
      I think perhaps you are right about mobile phones and you are right about many people being lonely.
      I am very glad you are happy with your own company. I do like some but sometimes I want to chat to someone on the phone and I don't really have any friends I feel I can just ring and chat ot.

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  4. "As an adult, when meeting someone new, I worry about whether someone genuinely wants to be my friend or not or is just being polite in the situation of talking to me." <-- YES!! This is me! It also doesn't help that I am terrified of going places where there will be large groups of strangers on my own. When we first got here, we went to quite a few meetups (through meetup.com). There were some people there who seemed nice but nobody was interested in meeting up again outside the meetup setting. I was kind of hoping Jan could make friends for both of us ;-) He sings with about 3 choirs now but again none of them want to meet up and do anything away from the choir, and of course I can't sing AT ALL so I can't join.

    We moved to Basel three years ago 8it's almost exactly 3 years actually). SO far I have 2 "friends" here. And with one of them ever time I hear from her I'm surprised she still wants to hang out with us. She's nice but we don't have loads in common and we rarely see her because she spends most weekends either hiking or doing a 10K or something with her running club. I always think we were just a stop gap when she first arrived and surely she'll stop contacting us at some point when she finds good friends among the runners.

    I am hoping things might be different when/if we have children, but to be honest if the only thing I have in common with another person is that we're both parents I'm not sure that will be enough to base a friendship on. And it still won't solve the "what if they don't like me?" worry. I don't see how anyone could not like you though, Kezzie. You are such a lovely, genuine person and so interesting to chat to!

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    1. I am so glad you agree with this. I thought this might strike a chord with you because we discussed it I think, when we met.
      I have friends in the orchestra I play with- but because we live out in Essex, it is harder to actually socialize and just 'meet up', a bit like Jan's choir.
      You are lovely and I hope that you make more friends in Basel!x

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    2. Yes, I remember talking about it.
      I need to get over my fear and just get out there and do something.
      The choir people mostly seem to already have other friends they meet up with day to day. There seems to be a lot of keeping friendship groups separate here - you see choir people at choir events, colleagues at work and maybe some kind of work social, "at-home" friends are the ones you see regularly and just meet up with for no special reason, and once you have your standard group of friends they're the ones you stick with forever.

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  5. I've found it easiest to make friends in the context of joining activities where you meet like minded people and not restricting myself to friends of my own age. Despite being shy I just take the plunge and join things working on the premise that many people are shy underneath it all. Even if I risk being rejected I work off the premise that it's worth taking the initiative rather than sit back and wait for others. That's how the blogger Lovely Grey and I became friends in real life- she sort of suggested meeting in London and I agreed. We got on really well and have continued to meet on a regular basis even though she's in Devon and I'm in Sussex. Arilx

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    1. Activities are great, that is very true and having friends of all ages. I love having friends of all ages but my husband is a little more close-minded in his approach- he seems to really want friends of our age.
      You are right about taking the initiative. How lovely that you and Lovely Grey are now friends in real life!

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  6. I don't have friends. I was terribly shy growing up and didn't master enough social skills to make or keep friends. Now I talk with coworkers but don't have people to go out to lunch with or anything. People here are bad, though - so much drama crap, even with the adults. I don't want that in my life.

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    1. It's very hard, isn't it! I am not of the 'going out and drinking type' which we get lots of here which makes things harder, definitely wouldn't want to have all that 'drama crap' going on!
      I was never SHY but I am rather socially awkward if I am feeling uncomfortable with a situation or if I feel that someone doesn't really like me or I'm not sure!

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    1. Oh no, why did you delete this?! I agreed with what you wrote about it.Yes, you do start to question yourself. I have started to do that!

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  8. Aw Kezzie wish I could give you a hug! Any chance you can find out contact details of the lass in question? My friendship group has waned over the years due to the ongoing health issues in the family. However I do have accord group of friends and although I do not see them regularly I know they would help out in an emergency. I think if you could find a church where you felt welcomed that would be such a boon. Sending much love San xx

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    1. Thanks San! Hug gratefully accepted! I can imagine that ill health has taken its toll on friendship. I am glad you still have that group of friends. I really long to find a church where I feel welcomed. I just need to get on and find one!
      P.S. Might be able to get her email address from the Bride!

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  9. I've always been very shy and not good at making friends. My lack of self-confidence kept me from approaching people - I'd think, "oh, they don't want to be bothered with me," and so I just spent my time alone. When I had a boyfriend, I just adopted his friends.

    Then, when I was in my 30s, an acquaintance I knew started a book club, and she invited every women she knew. All these strangers, but we all knew her, and all liked to read. I hit it off with 2 of the other women, and over the last 10 years that has blossomed into my Real Family, the people who love me, warts and all.

    Please reach out to the woman you clicked with, Kezzie - when we meet those kindred spirits, we can't let them get away. Invite her for coffee - the worst thing that can happen is she says no, right? But she will probably say yes! This could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship. :)

    Thank you so much for visiting me from Ally's blog - I'm following you, and would love to get to know you. Any friend of hers is a friend of mine. It happens online too!

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    1. I'm surprised to hear you are shy Sheila! You are such a cool person!
      The book club sounds amazing and I love the fact that it has evolved into somethign so wonderful!
      Maybe I should just bite the bullet and get in touch with the bride and see if I can get in touch!
      It was lovely to meet you via your blog! I will come over and follow you! As you say, any friend of Ally is a friend of mine! She's wonderful!

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  10. You're absolutely right. It's not easy making friends as an adult especially if you move a lot or work long hours. Everyone seem to be so busy nowadays, both people with and without kids struggle to find time....sometimes it feels almost impossible. For friendship we need that 'click', it needs to be more than chatting or small talk, or it turns into socializing with acquaintances. So, it is not something you can create out of thin air. Socializing is great, but perhaps true friendship is something we need to wait for. I lost a lot of friends when I moved to another country and even more because of my health problems. I'm down to only a few and I don't get to see them very often.

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    1. Yes, work is a big problem I think- trying to go out when feeling utterly knackered doesn't help!
      You are right abotu that click, to want to make a friendship work!
      It must have been very difficult moving country! How long ago did you move?x

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  11. I'll let you into a secret, I'm chronically shy. I hide it well!
    A lot of people knock Facebook but I find that a wonderful way of developing friendships. I'll often meet people at vintage fairs, festivals or even on the train (the joys of not owning a mobile phone -therefore not being surgically attached to a screen) and we friend each other on Facebook. Over a few weeks of exchanging comments and seeing what they chose to share online you get a real sense of the kind of person they are and a often a simple - one of these days we should go charity shopping, have lunch in'Spoons - leads to a lovely day out with a like-minded person.
    Don't limit yourself to people of your own age or sex. I'm got friends a lot older and younger than me - it's far more important to form relationships with those with a similar sense of humour and political leanings and views than it is just because someone was born around the same time as you were.
    Having met you I know what a funny, friendly and warm-hearted girl you are. if you didn't live at the other end of the country I'd love to spend time with you.
    Next time you click with someone be brave, ask them if they fancy meeting for a coffee in the week - swap numbers or even IG details - you won't regret it! xxx

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    1. YOU are wonderful Vix! Strangely enough, I can see that you might be shy, to a certain extent when you say it even though I wouldn't have thought it, I somehow get that!
      Some of my greatest friends over the years are older or younger than I. When I was 24, one of my dearest friends was the vicar's 16 year old daughter and my friend Ellie is 70 something and I've been to stay with her several times and when I see her at Music Camp, she is absolutely the person I most want to hang out with. CBC is a bit more funny about friends being the same age. He likes both of those friends, for example, but he really wants friends of our age.
      I wish you lived near by!
      You are right, I should have just said, "Let's meet up!"x

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  12. Isn't it odd how many of us are commenting that your post rings true for them! I'm quite shy too, and it is hard to make friends. I suppose here in France there's the bond that speaking English brings, so I have 2 very good friends here, plus people from church who are "becoming friends" but it is still very hard. Sometimes you just have to make a step oneself, and hope for the best - which is what I did with one woman who has become a very good friend. I encourage you, like everyone else, to try to contact this woman if you can...

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    1. Yes, it is amazing how many people agree! I'm glad you were able to take the step to make those friends and yes, I should!

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  13. This is a subject close to my heart, Kezzie, as I'm finding it difficult too. I have always been quite shy, and at school I usually had one best friend but was never part of a group of friends, always feeling a bit as if I didn't belong. When at 16 I started going out, I made more friends and finally was part of a group, but unfortunately none of these friendship lasted beyond my wild years, as I call them. Like Vix, I have lots of friends on Facebook, some of whom I haven't met (yet), and I think that it's a good way to get to know one another, plus I have reconnected with many old friends that way. I'd like to think that I've met quite a few friends through blogging, even if I haven't met any of you in real life. There's a good chance that the woman you clicked with felt the same like you, and wanted to be your friend but didn't feel confident enough, just like you. Although I haven't met you, you do come across as a wonderful person I'd love to befriend. xxx

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    1. It is hard Ann, isn't it! I've not really kept any friends from school either, as such though Facebook seems a great way to stay in touch. I'm not on it because of school etc!
      Yes, I do count my blog friends as friends! Just wish you all lived nearby!
      xx

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  14. It sounds very familiar. I do have a few close friends, who I don't get to see nearly as much as I would like - busy lives!! And I have a wider group of friends that I see once a year maybe. I invited them all to our wedding in the hope that it would rekindle our friendship but a lot of them I haven't seen since (3 year anniversary just gone!!).
    I think you should reach out to the lady you met at the wedding - be a little brave, it might turn out to be a lasting friendship. Having met you I know that you're not boring in the slightest, you're lovely, I've always enjoyed time spent in your company. This post has made me determined to reach out to some of those people I've lost touch with, I'll regret it if I don't.
    xx

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    1. Busy lives have a lot to answer for!! We had that with our wedding- somehow we haven't really been in touch so much!
      You are kind to say that and if this post has helped to remind you to reach out, YAAAAAAAAAAAY!x

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  15. I hope that there is the possibility of you being able to exchange details with the like minded person you met, maybe through the bride or groom. It is trickier as you get older.
    A close friend of mine met someone through work when she was in her 30s who she became very close to and although they moved away geographically from each other they are still great friends. This new friendship was a huge surprise to her as she said she wasn't expecting to meet someone she so totally clicked with at that stage in her life as she felt this kind of strong friendship only happened when you are younger. So it just goes to show that we show try and embrace any opportunity which comes our way.
    I bet she'd love to be friends with you. I know that if I lived near you I'd want to be your friend!
    Lisa x

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    1. That sounds a wonderful chance that you friend made with meeting someone through work! You are right that we should try!
      YES, I wish you lived near by! I'd totally be your friend! x

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  16. Well you've certainly struck a chord with your readers Kezzie. I'm guilty of being a terrible friend as I simply can't find time to keep a friendship going. Even here on the island, I can't say I really have a friend, but do consider my husband to be my best friend. My dearest girlfriend lives in Portugal which means we have to maintain our relationship by phone and email. Your're right that it's more difficult to make friends once we're all grown up, but maybe we ought to ignore that fact and just be spontaneous when someone comes along who really inspires us - go for it next time Kezzie!
    You're one of the sweetest and kindest people I've met - I'd love to meet up with you again.

    Anna x

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  17. I don't agree with you. I used to say the same thing, but I was wrong. As children, we were not making friends, but having a casual social encounter with someone we liked. I think it's like in your stories, with the lady you've had a chat with.
    This year I've been to all sort of events, blogging events, conferences, a symposium, and I talked with other ladies. We didn't exchange phone numbers though. I think we have big expectations from us. Forging real friendships is not easy and it shouldn't be the aim in socializing, but spending a lovely time having a chat and enjoying the moment.

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  18. Kezzie, that's a deep and difficult question. We've moved quite a few times during our marriage (always for work reasons), and the U.S. is a BIG place, so a move often takes you many hours' drive from old friends. We made our closest friends at a boarding school in Iowa; all of us lived, worked, ate, worshiped, gardened, and parented our kids together on one campus. That makes you quite close.
    I don't have many friends where I live, really no close friends at all, and we've been here 6 years. I'm a pastor's wife, so it's hard to be close to women in our church, even though I'm very involved. You never know when you might have to leave. It becomes more difficult to make friends in the general populace as you age, it's true. It's easiest to make friends at work, or a church. It's quite hard to start up a relationship with someone casually that you just meet somewhere -- you express perfectly the awkwardness of inquiring about if they'd like to meet up again. When you're at work or church, you know you'll meet up again each day, or each week, so you don't have to ask.
    I'd strongly encourage you to find a church you really like, with potential friends, and be dedicated to regular attendance. Your hubby needs to understand that you need friends, more than just him. Women tend to need that more than men do. I hope you find some good friends! It's kind of lonely, as a woman, without them. You hear stories of "girlfriend groups" that stick close for decades and take beach trips together, etc. It is harder to find than most people think.

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  19. http://www.christian-teachers.org.uk

    I wonder if you could link up with anyone from ACT.

    Above all pray about finding the Church God has for you and for finding a friend.

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